Joan de Ferrers

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  1. 1.  Joan de Ferrers (daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby and Margaret de Quincy); died 19 Mar 1309/10; was buried Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.

    Notes:

    She married Thomas de Berkeley, 1st Lord Berkeley, son of Sir Maurice de Berkeley and Isabel FitzRoy, in 1267.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby was born Abt 1193, Derby, Derbyshire, England (son of William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby and Alice of Chester); died 28 Mar 1254, Evington, Leicestershire, England; was buried Warwickshire, England.

    Notes:

    William III de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby (1193 - 28 March 1254) was an English nobleman and head of a family which controlled a large part of Derbyshire including an area known as Duffield Frith.

    He was born in Derbyshire, England, the son of William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby and Agnes of Chester, a daughter of Hugh of Kevelioc, Earl of Chester and Bertrada de Montfort. He succeeded to the title in 1247, on the death of his father and, after doing homage to King Henry III, he had livery of Chartley Castle and other lands of his mother's inheritance. He had accompanied King Henry to France in 1230 and sat in parliament in London in the same year.

    He had many favours granted to him by the king, among them the right of free warren in Beaurepair (Belper), Makeney, Winleigh (Windley), Holbrooke, Siward (Southwood near Coxbench), Heyhegh (Heage) Cortelegh (Corkley, in the parish of Muggington), Ravensdale, Holland (Hulland), and many other places,

    Like his father, he suffered from gout from youth, and always traveled in a litter. He was accidentally thrown from his litter into water, while crossing a bridge, at St Neots, in Huntingdon and although he escaped immediate death, yet he never recovered from the effects of the accident. He died on 28 March 1254, after only seven years, and was succeeded by his son Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby.

    William de Ferrers is buried at Merevale Abbey, Warwickshire, England. His widow died on 12 March 1280.

    Family and children

    William Ferrers married Sibyl Marshal, one of the daughters and co-heirs of William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke. They had seven daughters:

    Agnes Ferrers (died 11 May 1290), married William de Vesci.
    Isabel Ferrers (died before 26 November 1260), married (1) Gilbert Basset, of Wycombe, and (2) Reginald de Mohun
    Maud Ferrers (died 12 March 1298), married (1) Simon de Kyme, and (2) William de Vivonia, and (3) Amaury IX of Rochechouart.
    Sibyl Ferrers, married Sir Francis or Franco de Bohun, an ancestor of Daniel Boone. (it is her aunt Sibyl, sister of William, who married John de Vipont, Lord of Appleby)
    Joan Ferrers (died 1267), married to:

    John de Mohun
    Robert Aguillon

    Agatha Ferrers (died May 1306), married Hugh Mortimer, of Chelmarsh.
    Eleanor Ferrers (died 16 October 1274), married to:

    William de Vaux;
    Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester;
    Roger de Leybourne

    In 1238, he married Margaret de Quincy (born 1218), daughter of Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester and Helen of Galloway. Bizarrely, Margaret was both the stepmother and stepdaughter of William's daughter, Eleanor. The earl and Margaret had the following children:

    Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby, his successor. He married:

    Mary de Lusignan, daughter of Hugh XI of Lusignan, Count of Angoulême, and niece of King Henry III, by whom he had no issue;
    Alianore de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey VI de Bohun and Eleanor de Braose, per Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700 by Frederick Lewis Weis, Lines 57-30 & 68-29.

    William Ferrers obtained, by gift of Margaret, his mother, the manor of Groby in Leicestershire, assuming the arms of the family of De Quincy. He married:

    Anne Durward, daughter of Alan Durward;[2] their son was William de Ferrers, 1st Baron Ferrers of Groby. (However Weis, "Ancestral Roots", 2006, line 58 no. 30, has Anne le Despencer, dau. of Hugh le Despencer, 1st Baron Despencer, who was slain at the battle of Evesham)
    Eleanor, daughter of Matthew Lovaine.

    Joan Ferrers (died 19 March 1309) married Thomas de Berkeley, 1st Baron Berkeley.
    Agnes Ferrers married Sir Robert de Muscegros (aka Robert de Musgrove), Lord of Kemerton, Boddington & Deerhurst.
    Elizabeth Ferrers, married to:

    William Marshal, 2nd Baron Marshal;
    Prince Dafydd ap Gruffydd

    William married Margaret de Quincy 1238. Margaret (daughter of Roger de Quency, 2nd Earl of Winchester and Helen de Galloway) was born Abt 1218, Winchester, Hampshire, England; died 12 Mar 1283/84. [Group Sheet]


  2. 3.  Margaret de Quincy was born Abt 1218, Winchester, Hampshire, England (daughter of Roger de Quency, 2nd Earl of Winchester and Helen de Galloway); died 12 Mar 1283/84.
    Children:
    1. Robert de Ferrers, 6th Earl of Derby was born Abt 1239, Tutbury, Staffordshire, England; died Bef 27 Apr 1279; was buried Aft 27 Apr 1279, Stafford, Staffordshire, England.
    2. William de Ferrers was born Abt 1240; died Bef 24 Jan 1298/99.
    3. 1. Joan de Ferrers died 19 Mar 1309/10; was buried Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby was born Between 1152 and 1168, Ferrers, Derbyshire, England (son of William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby and Sybil de Braose); died 22 Sep 1247.

    Notes:

    He gained the title of 4th Earl of Derby. In 1190/91 he had livery of his lands.

    William II de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby (c. 1168 - c. 1247) was a favourite of King John of England. He succeeded to the estate (but not the title) upon the death of his father, William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby, at the Siege of Acre in 1190. He was head of a family which controlled a large part of Derbyshire which included an area known as Duffield Frith.

    He adopted his father's allegiance to King Richard as the reigning king. On Richard's return from the Third Crusade, in the company of David Ceannmhor and the Earl of Chester he played a leading role in besieging Nottingham Castle, on the 28th March 1194, which was being held by supporters of Prince John. For seven weeks after this he held the position of Sheriff of Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire.

    On the accession of John after the death of his brother, in 1199, William gave him his allegiance, and became a great favourite. He restored to the de Ferrars' family the title of Earl of Derby, along with the right to the "third penny", and soon afterwards bestowed upon him the manors of Ashbourne and Wirksworth, with the whole of that wapentake, subject to a fee farm rent of £70 per annum.

    When, in 1213, John surrendered his kingdoms of England and Ireland to the Pope, William was one of the witnesses to the "Bulla Aurea." In the following year William gave surety on behalf of the king for the payment of a yearly tribute of 1,000 marks.

    In the same year, 1214, the King granted the Earl the royal castle of Harestan (Horsley Castle). William was a patron of at least 2 abbeys and 4 priories. In 1216, John made him bailiff of the Peak Forest and warden of the Peak Castle.

    In that year, John was succeeded by the nine year-old Henry III. Because of continuing discontent about John's violations of the Magna Carta, some of the barons had approached Prince Louis of France who invaded in that year. William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke acting on behalf of the young King sought to repel the invaders and pacify the barons. His forces, with the assistance of de Ferrers, the Earl of Chester and others, defeated the rebels at the siege of Lincoln.

    De Ferrers was allowed to retain the royal castles of Bolsover, Peak and Horston (Horsley) until the King's 14th birthday. The latter had been given him in 1215 as a residence for his wife, during his planned absence with the King on Crusade. and the Earl was among those who made representation to the King, which would in 1258 led to the Provisions of Oxford .

    Henry reached his fourteenth birthday in 1222 and his administration sought to recover the three royal castles, to de Ferrers' indignation. In 1254 they would pass to Edward I, Henry's son, exacerbating Robert's, the sixth earl, resentment against the prince.

    He was married to Agnes De Kevelioch, sister of Ranulph de Blondeville, 4th Earl of Chester, for 55 years. As the Earl advanced in years he became a martyr to severe attacks of the gout, a disease which terminated his life in the year 1247. He was succeeded by his elder son, also William, the Fifth Earl of Derby.

    Family and children

    William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby
    Sybil de Ferrers, married Sir John Vipont, Lord of Appleby and had issue.
    Sir Thomas of Chartley Ferrers
    Sir Hugh of Bugbrooke Ferrers (married and had issue)

    William married Alice of Chester 1192, Cheshire. Alice (daughter of Hugh of Kevelioc 5th Earl of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort, of Evreux) was born Abt 1174, Tutbury, Staffordshire, England; died 02 Nov 1247. [Group Sheet]


  2. 5.  Alice of Chester was born Abt 1174, Tutbury, Staffordshire, England (daughter of Hugh of Kevelioc 5th Earl of Chester and Bertrade de Montfort, of Evreux); died 02 Nov 1247.

    Other Events:

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    Notes:

    She was also known as Agnes of Chester.

    Children:
    1. 2. William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby was born Abt 1193, Derby, Derbyshire, England; died 28 Mar 1254, Evington, Leicestershire, England; was buried Warwickshire, England.

  3. 6.  Roger de Quency, 2nd Earl of Winchester was born Abt 1195 (son of Saher de Quency, 1st Earl of Winchester and Margaret de Beaumont); died 25 Apr 1264.

    Notes:

    He married, firstly, Helen de Galloway, daughter of Alan de Galloway, Lord of Galloway and Margaret of Huntingdon, before 1234. He was also known as Roger de Quincy. He gained the title of 2nd Earl of Winchester.

    Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester (1195 - 25 April 1264) was a medieval nobleman who was prominent on both sides of the Anglo-Scottish border, as Earl of Winchester and Constable of Scotland.

    He was the second son of Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester, and Margaret de Beaumont.

    He probably joined his father on the Fifth Crusade in 1219, where the elder de Quincy fell sick and died. His elder brother having died a few years earlier, Roger thus inherited his father's titles and properties. However, he did not take possession of his father's lands until February 1221, probably because he did not return to England from the crusade until then. He did not formally become earl until after the death of his mother in 1235.

    Roger married Helen of Galloway (b.c1208), eldest daughter and co-heiress of Alan, Lord of Galloway. Without legitimate sons to succeed him, Alan's lands and dignities were divided between the husbands of his three daughters, so Roger acquired Alan's position as Constable of Scotland, and one-third of the lordship of Galloway (although the actual title of Lord of Galloway went through Helen's half-sister Devorguilla to her husband John I de Balliol).

    The Galwegians rebelled under Gille Ruadh, not wanting their land divided, but the rebellion was suppressed by Alexander II of Scotland. Roger ruled his portion of Galloway strictly, and the Galwegians revolted again in 1247, forcing Roger to take refuge in a castle. Faced with a siege and little chance of relief, Roger and a few men fought their way out and rode off to seek help from Alexander, who raised forces to again suppress the rebellion.

    In the following years Roger was one of the leaders of the baronial opposition to Henry III of England, although he fought for Henry against the Welsh in the 1250s and 1260s.

    Following Ellen's death in 1245, Roger married Maud de Bohun, daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, 2nd Earl of Hereford, around 1250. Maud died only two years later, and Roger married his third wife, Eleanor de Ferrers, daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby the same year.

    Roger had three daughters by his first wife, but no sons. His subsequent marriages produced no issue. After his death his estates were divided between the daughters, and the earldom of Winchester lapsed. The three daughters of Roger and Helen of Galloway were:

    Ellen, who married Alan la Zouche, Lord Zouche of Ashby;
    Elizabeth (also known as Isabel), who married Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan;
    Margaret (or Margery), who married William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby (and was thus stepmother to her own stepmother).

    He bore arms, different from his father's.

    Roger married Helen de Galloway Bef 1234. Helen (daughter of Alan de Galloway, Lord of Galloway and Margaret of Huntingdon) was born Abt 1208; died Aft 21 Nov 1245. [Group Sheet]


  4. 7.  Helen de Galloway was born Abt 1208 (daughter of Alan de Galloway, Lord of Galloway and Margaret of Huntingdon); died Aft 21 Nov 1245.

    Notes:

    Her married name became de Quincy.

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth de Quincy died Aft Apr 1282.
    2. 3. Margaret de Quincy was born Abt 1218, Winchester, Hampshire, England; died 12 Mar 1283/84.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  William de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby was born 1140, Oakham, Rutland, England (son of Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby and Margaret Peverel); died Aft 31 Dec 1189, Acre, Palestine.

    Notes:

    He succeeded to the title of 3rd Earl of Derby before 1160. He fought in the Siege of Acre on 31 December 1189 and was killed in action.

    William I de Ferrers, 3rd Earl of Derby (died 1190) was a 12th century English Earl who resided in Tutbury Castle in Staffordshire and was head of a family which controlled a large part of Derbyshire known as Duffield Frith. He was also a Knight Templar.

    William was the son of Robert de Ferrers, 2nd Earl of Derby and his wife, Margaret Peverel. He succeeded his father as Earl of Derby in 1162. He was married to Sybil, the daughter of William de Braose, 3rd Lord of Bramber and Bertha of Hereford.

    William de Ferrers was one of the earls who joined the rebellion against King Henry II of England led by Henry's eldest son, Henry the Younger, in the Revolt of 1173-1174, sacking the town of Nottingham. Robert de Ferrers II, his father, had supported Stephen of England and, although Henry II had accepted him at court, he had denied the title of earl of Derby to him and his son. In addition, William had a grudge against Henry because he believed he should have inherited the lands of Peveril Castle through his mother. These, King Henry had previously confiscated in 1155 when William Peverel fell into disfavour.

    With the failure of the revolt, de Ferrers was taken prisoner by King Henry, at Northampton on the 31 July 1174, along with the King of Scots and the earls of Chester and Lincoln, along with a number of his Derbyshire underlings and was held at Caen. He was deprived of his castles at Tutbury and Duffield and both were put out of commission (and possibly Pilsbury.) In addition to defray the costs of the war Henry levied a so called "Forest Fine" of 200 marks.

    He seems to have afterwards regained the confidence of Henry II., and he showed his fidelity to the next Sovereign, (King Richard I.), by accompanying him in his expedition to the Holy Land, and joined the Third Crusade and died at the Siege of Acre in 1190.

    He was succeeded by his son William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby.

    William married Sybil de Braose Abt 1174, Sussex, England. Sybil (daughter of William de Braose, 3rd Lord of Bramber and Bertha of Hereford) was born Abt 1157, Bramber, Sussex, England; died Aft 05 Feb 1227/28. [Group Sheet]


  2. 9.  Sybil de Braose was born Abt 1157, Bramber, Sussex, England (daughter of William de Braose, 3rd Lord of Bramber and Bertha of Hereford); died Aft 05 Feb 1227/28.
    Children:
    1. Agatha de Ferrers
    2. Millicent de Ferrers
    3. 4. William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby was born Between 1152 and 1168, Ferrers, Derbyshire, England; died 22 Sep 1247.

  3. 10.  Hugh of Kevelioc 5th Earl of Chester was born Abt 1147, Kevelioc, Merionethshire, Wales (son of Ranulph de Gernon 4th Earl of Chester and Maud FitzRobert); died 30 Jun 1181, Leek, Staffordshire, England; was buried Aft 30 Jun 1181, Chester, Cheshire, England.

    Notes:

    He was also known as Hugh le Meschin. He succeeded to the title of 3rd Earl of Chester [E., 1071] on 16 December 1153. He succeeded to the title of Vicomte d'Avranches [Normandy] on 16 December 1153. He fought in the Battle of Alnwick on 13 July 1174, where he was taken prisoner by King Henry II. He was deprived of his Earldom, but was then restored in January 1177.

    Hugh de Kevelioc, 5th Earl of Chester (1147 - 30 June 1181) was the son of Ranulf de Gernon, 4th Earl of Chester and Maud of Gloucester, daughter of Robert, 1st Earl of Gloucester (otherwise known as Robert de Caen, the illegitimate son of Henry I of England, making her Henry's granddaughter).

    Early life

    He is thought to have been born Kevelioc in Monmouth. But he may have taken the name of, the cwmwd of Cyfeiliog (in modern Powys) in the southern part of the Kingdom of Powys, Wales.

    He was underage when his father's death in 1153 made him heir to his family's estates on both sides of the channel. He joined the baronial Revolt of 1173-1174 against King Henry II of England, and was influential in convincing the Bretons to revolt. After being captured and imprisoned after the Battle of Alnwick, he finally got his estates restored in 1177, and served in King Henry's Irish campaigns.
    Marriage

    In 1169 he married Bertrade de Montfort of Evreux, daughter of Simon III de Montfort. She was the cousin of King Henry, who gave her away in marriage. Their children were:

    Ranulf de Blondeville, 6th Earl of Chester
    Matilda (Maud) of Chester (1171-1233), married David of Scotland, 8th Earl of Huntingdon
    Mabel of Chester, married William d'Aubigny, 3rd Earl of Arundel
    Agnes of Chester (died 2 November 1247), married William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby
    Hawise of Chester (1180-1242), married Robert II de Quincy
    Beatrix of Chester, married Lord William Belward of Malpas

    Hugh also had another daughter, Amice of Chester, who married Ralph de Mainwaring. There is no record of Amice's mother or whether she was Hugh's wife or mistress. The issue of Amice's legitimacy has been subject to a longstanding dispute.

    One letter from the Pope suggests that Llywelyn Fawr may have been married to an unnamed sister of Earl Ranulph of Chester in about 1192, but there appears to be no confirmation of this. If this was the case it could have been either Mabel or Hawise, or perhaps Amice, and the marriage would have had to have been annulled before any subsequent marriages.

    Death and succession

    Hugh of Kevelioc died 30 June 1181 at Leek, Staffordshire, England. He was succeeded by his son, Ranulf.

    Hugh married Bertrade de Montfort, of Evreux 1169. Bertrade (daughter of Simon de Montfort, Comte d'Evreux and Maud) was born Abt 1155; died Abt 1227. [Group Sheet]


  4. 11.  Bertrade de Montfort, of Evreux was born Abt 1155 (daughter of Simon de Montfort, Comte d'Evreux and Maud); died Abt 1227.

    Other Events:

    • Name:

    Notes:

    She was also known as Bertrade de Montfort.

    Children:
    1. Mabel of Chester
    2. Matilda of Chester died 06 Jan 1232/33.
    3. Ranulf de Blundeville, 4th Earl of Chester was born Abt 1172, Oswestry, Shropshire, England; died Abt 27 Oct 1232, Wallingford, Berkshire, England; was buried 03 Nov 1232, Chester, Cheshire, England.
    4. Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln was born 1180, Chester, Cheshire, England; died Abt 1242.
    5. Beatrix of Kevelioc
    6. 5. Alice of Chester was born Abt 1174, Tutbury, Staffordshire, England; died 02 Nov 1247.

  5. 12.  Saher de Quency, 1st Earl of Winchester was born 1155 (son of Robert de Quency and Orabilis of Leuchars); died 03 Nov 1219, Damietta, Egypt; was buried Acre, Palestine.

    Notes:

    He married Margaret, daughter of Robert, 3rd Earl of Leicester and Pernel Grandmesnil.

    Saer de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester (1155 - 3 November 1219) was one of the leaders of the baronial rebellion against King John of England, and a major figure in both Scotland and England in the decades around the turn of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries.

    Saer de Quincy's immediate background was in the Scottish kingdom: his father, Robert de Quincy, was a knight in the service of king William the Lion, and his mother Orabilis was the heiress of the lordship of Leuchars in Fife (see below). His rise to prominence in England came through his marriage to Margaret, the younger sister of Robert de Beaumont, 4th Earl of Leicester: but it is probably no coincidence that her other brother was the de Quincys' powerful Fife neighbour, Roger de Beaumont, Bishop of St Andrews. In 1204, Earl Robert died, leaving Margaret as co-heiress of the vast earldom along with her elder sister. The estate was split in half, and after the final division was ratified in 1207, de Quincy was made Earl of Winchester.

    Following his marriage, de Quincy became a prominent military and diplomatic figure in England. There is no evidence of any close alliance with King John, however, and his rise to importance was probably due to his newly-acquired magnate status and the family connections that underpinned it.

    One man with whom he does seem to have developed a close personal relationship is his cousin, Robert Fitzwalter(d.1235). They are first found together in 1203, as co-commanders of the garrison at the major fortress of Vaudreuil in Normandy; they were responsible for surrendering the castle without a fight to Philip II of France, fatally weakening the English position in northern France, but although popular opinion seems to have blamed them for the capitulation, a royal writ is extant stating that the castle was surrendered at King John's command, and both Saer and Fitzwalter had to endure personal humiliation and heavy ransoms at the hands of the French.

    In Scotland, he was perhaps more successful. In 1211-12, the Earl of Winchester commanded an imposing retinue of a hundred knights and a hundred serjeants in William the Lion's campaign against the Mac William rebels, a force which some historians have suggested may have been the mercenary force from Brabant lent to the campaign by John.

    In 1215, when the baronial rebellion broke out, Robert Fitzwalter became the military commander, and the Earl of Winchester joined him, acting as one of the chief negotiators with John; both cousins were among the 25 guarantors of the Magna Carta. De Quincy fought against John in the troubles that followed the signing of the Charter, and, again with Fitzwalter, travelled to France to invite Prince Louis of France to take the English throne. He and Fitzwalter were subsequently among the most committed and prominent supporters of Louis' candidature for the kingship, against both John and the infant Henry III.

    When military defeat cleared the way for Henry III to take the throne, de Quincy went on crusade, perhaps in fulfillment of an earlier vow, and in 1219 he left to join the Fifth Crusade, then besieging Damietta. While in the east, he fell sick and died. He was buried in Acre, the capital of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, rather than in Egypt, and his heart was brought back and interred at Garendon Abbey near Loughborough, a house endowed by his wife's family.

    Family

    The family of de Quincy had arrived in England after the Norman Conquest, and took their name from Cuinchy in the Arrondissement of Béthune; the personal name "Saer" was used by them over several generations. Both names are variously spelled in primary sources and older modern works, the first name being sometimes rendered Saher or Seer, and the surname as Quency or Quenci.

    The first recorded Saer de Quincy (known to historians as "Saer I") was lord of the manor of Long Buckby in Northamptonshire in the earlier twelfth century, and second husband of Matilda of St Liz, stepdaughter of King David I of Scotland by Maud of Northumbria. This marriage produced two sons, Saer II and Robert de Quincy. It was Robert, the younger son, who was the father of the Saer de Quincy who eventually became Earl of Winchester. By her first husband Robert Fitz Richard, Matilda was also the paternal grandmother of Earl Saer's close ally, Robert Fitzwalter.

    Robert de Quincy seems to have inherited no English lands from his father, and pursued a knightly career in Scotland, where he is recorded from around 1160 as a close companion of his cousin, King William the Lion. By 1170 he had married Orabilis, heiress of the Scottish lordship of Leuchars and, through her, he became lord of an extensive complex of estates north of the border which included lands in Fife, Strathearn and Lothian.

    Saer de Quincy, the son of Robert de Quincy and Orabilis of Leuchars, was raised largely in Scotland. His absence from English records for the first decades of his life has led some modern historians and genealogists to confuse him with his uncle, Saer II, who took part in the rebellion of Henry the Young King in 1173, when the future Earl of Winchester can have been no more than a toddler. Saer II's line ended without direct heirs, and his nephew and namesake would eventually inherit his estate, uniting his primary Scottish holdings with the family's Northamptonshire patrimony, and possibly some lands in France.

    By his wife Margaret de Beaumont, Saer de Quincy had three sons and three daughters:

    Lorette who married Sir William de Valognes
    Arabella who married Sir Richard Harcourt
    Robert (d. 1217), before 1206 he married Hawise of Chester, Countess of Lincoln, sister and co-heiress of Ranulf de Blundeville, Earl of Chester.
    Roger, who succeeded his father as earl of Winchester (though he did not take formal possession of the earldom until after his mother's death);
    Robert de Quincy (second son of that name; d. 1257) who married Helen, daughter of the Welsh prince Llywelyn the Great;
    Hawise, who married Hugh de Vere, 4th Earl of Oxford.

    Saher married Margaret de Beaumont Bef 1190. Margaret (daughter of Robert, 3rd Earl of Leicester and Pernel Grandmesnil) died Abt 12 Jan 1234/35. [Group Sheet]


  6. 13.  Margaret de Beaumont (daughter of Robert, 3rd Earl of Leicester and Pernel Grandmesnil); died Abt 12 Jan 1234/35.
    Children:
    1. Robert de Quincy, Lord of Ware died Aug 1257.
    2. 6. Roger de Quency, 2nd Earl of Winchester was born Abt 1195; died 25 Apr 1264.
    3. Hawise de Quincy
    4. Robert de Quincey died 1217, London, England.

  7. 14.  Alan de Galloway, Lord of Galloway was born Abt 1175 (son of Roland of Galloway and Eleanor de Morville); died 1234; was buried Galloway, Scotland.

    Notes:

    Alan Fitz Roland (c. 1175 - 1234) was the last of the MacFergus dynasty of quasi-independent Lords of Galloway. He was also hereditary Constable of Scotland.

    Family

    He was the son of Roland, or Lochlann, Lord of Galloway and Helen de Morville. His date of birth is uncertain, but he was considered an adult in 1196.

    In right of his mother he inherited the de Morville Lordship of Lauderdale. as well as others in that vicinity: West of Blainslie, in Lauderdale, but in the Lordship of Melrose, are the lands of Threepwood, which were granted by Alan, Constable of Scotland, to the monks of Melrose between 1177 and 1204.

    Campaigns

    In 1212 Alan responded to a summons from King John I of England by sending 1,000 troops to join the war against the Welsh. In this year he also sent one of his daughters to England as a hostage. She died in 1213 in the custody of her maternal uncle. Alan is listed as one of the 16 men who counseled King John regarding the Magna Carta.

    Alan, like his forebears, maintained a carefully ambiguous relationship with both the English and Scottish states, acting as a vassal when it suited his purpose and as an independent monarch when he could get away with it. His considerable sea power allowed him to supply fleets and armies to aid the English King John in campaigns both in France and Ireland.

    In 1225, Alan lent military aid to Ragnvald Godredsson, King of the Isles against Ragnvald's half-brother, Olaf. Sometime later, Alan's illegitimate son, Thomas, was married to Ragnvald's daughter. The marriage gave Alan a stake in the kingship, and it appears that Thomas was intended to succeed to the Kingship of the Isles. However, the marriage appears to have angered the Manx people, and Ragnvald was deposed from the kinship and replaced by Olaf in 1226. Ragnvald may well have gone into exile at Alan's court. In 1228, Alan and his brother, Thomas, and Ragnvald, attacked and devastated the Isle of Man, while Olaf was absent in the Hebrides.

    Alan died in 1234 and is buried at Dundrennan Abbey in Galloway.

    Marriages

    Alan was married three times. His first wife was Helen daughter of Roger de Lacy, Constable of Chester. His second marriage, which took place in 1209, was to Margaret (d. before 1228), eldest daughter of David, Earl of Huntingdon (d. 1219). His third marriage was to Rose (d. after 1237), daughter of Hugh de Lacy, Earl of Ulster (d. 1242). Alan had numerous children from his first two marriages, although only daughters reached adulthood. His eldest daughter from his first marriage, Helen, married Roger de Quincy (d. 1264). One daughter from his second marriage, Christina (or Christiana) (d. 1246), married William de Forz (d. 1260). Another daughter from his second marriage, Dervorguilla (d. 1290), married John de Balliol (d. 1314). Alan also had bastard son, Thomas, who survived into adulthood.

    With Alan's death his holdings were divided between his three daughters and their husbands. A popular attempt was made within Galloway to establish his illegitimate son, Thomas, as ruler, but this failed, and Galloway's period as an independent political entity came to an end.

    Alan married Margaret of Huntingdon 1209. Margaret (daughter of David of Scotland, 9th Earl of Huntingdon and Matilda of Chester) died 1228. [Group Sheet]


  8. 15.  Margaret of Huntingdon (daughter of David of Scotland, 9th Earl of Huntingdon and Matilda of Chester); died 1228.
    Children:
    1. Christian de Galloway died Bef 29 Jul 1246.
    2. Devorguilla de Galloway died 28 Jan 1289/90; was buried 31 Jan 1289/90, Kirkland, Dumfries-shire, Scotland.
    3. 7. Helen de Galloway was born Abt 1208; died Aft 21 Nov 1245.