Ida de Tosny, Countess of Norfolk

• Name	Ida de Tosny, Countess of Norfolk  [1, 2]
  Suffix	Countess of Norfolk
  Gender	Female
  Notes	Ida de Tosny, Countess of Norfolk was very likely a daughter of Ralph V de Tosny (died 1162) and his wife Margaret (born circa 1125 and living in 1185), a daughter of Robert de Beaumont, 2nd Earl of Leicester. Relationship to Henry II Ida de Tosny was a royal ward and mistress of King Henry II, by whom she was mother of one of his illegitimate sons - William Longespée, 3rd Earl of Salisbury, (b c. 1176-March 7, 1226). For many years, until the discovery of a charter of William mentioning "Comitissa Ida, mater mea" (engl. "Countess Ida, my mother", it was assumed that Rosamund Clifford, a previous mistress of Henry's, was the mother, but painstaking genealogical detective work has since shown otherwise. Ida was not the first English royal ward to be taken as mistress by a King who was her guardian; that honour probably belongs to Isabel de Beaumont (Elizabeth de Beaumont), daughter of Robert de Beaumont, who fought at the Battle of Hastings with the Conqueror. That king's youngest son made Beaumont's daughter his mistress. Marriage Around Christmas 1181, Ida de Tosny was given in marriage to Roger Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk by Henry II, together with the manors of Acle, Halvergate and South Walsham, which had been confiscated from his inheritance after his father's death (Hugh Bigod, 1st Earl of Norfolk). Ida and Roger had a number of children including: Hugh Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk who married in 1206/ 1207, Maud Marshal, a daughter of William Marshal William Bigod Ralph Bigod Roger Bigod Margery, married William de Hastings Mary Bigod, married Ralph fitz Robert Many historians, including Marc Morris have speculated that the couple had a third daughter, Alice, who married Aubrey de Vere IV, 2nd Earl of Oxford as his second wife. If so, the marriage would have been well within the bounds of consanguinity, for the couple would have been quite closely related, a daughter of the second earl of Norfolk being first cousin once removed to the second earl of Oxford.
  Person ID	I2790	Bosdet Genealogy
  Last Modified	16 May 2013

  
  

  Family 1	Henry, II of England,   b. 05 Mar 1132/33, Le Mans, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France ,   d. 06 Jul 1189, Chinon, Berri, France  (Age 56 years)
  Children	1. William Longespée, 1st Earl of Salisbury,   b. Between 1160 and 1170,   d. 1226, Mansourah, Egypt  (Age ~ 66 years)
  Family ID	F564	Group Sheet

  
  

  Family 2	Roger le Bigod, 2nd Earl of Norfolk,   b. Between 1144 and 1150,   d. Bef 02 Aug 1221  (Age ~ 77 years)
  Married	Abt 25 Dec 1181  [3]
  Children	1. Hugh le Bigod, 3rd Earl of Norfolk,   b. Abt 1182,   d. Abt 11 Feb 1224/25  (Age ~ 43 years)   2. Mary Bigod,   b. Between 1176 and 1196,   d. 31 Mar 1237  (Age ~ 61 years)
  Family ID	F1290	Group Sheet

  
  

• Sources

  [S174] Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_de_Tosny. [S202] Plantagenet Ancestry, Douglas Richardson, (Name: Genealogical Publishing Company; Location: Baltimore, Maryland, U.S.A.; Date: 2004;). [S174] Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Bigod,_2nd_Earl_of_Norfolk.