William, I Talvas

Male Abt 995 - 1052  (~ 57 years)


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  • Name William , I Talvas  [1
    Suffix I Talvas 
    Born Abt 995  [2
    Gender Male 
    Died 1052  [2
    Notes 
    • William Talvas, Signeur d'Alençon gained the title of Signeur d'Alençon [Normandy].

      William I Talvas (c. 995 - 1052), seigneur of Alençon. According to Orderic Vitalis his nickname Talvas meaning shield, presumably alluded to his hardness or callousness like that of a shield. He was a member of the House of Bellême.

      Life

      He was a son of William of Bellême and Mathilde of Condé-sur-Noireau. He held lands at Bellême, Domfront and Alençon, He obtained the lands of Bellême from his brother Yves de Bellême, Bishop of Séez who held them of the King of France while Alençon was held of the Duke of Normandy and Domfront of the Count of Maine.

      While as treacherous and self-serving as any of his family before him he surpassed them in wickedness and cruelty. He had married a Hildeburg, daughter of a nobleman named Arnulf, but he had his wife strangled on her way to church, according to Orderic, because she loved God and would not support his wickedness. William married secondly a daughter of Ralf de Beaumont, Viscount of Le Mans.

      Among the private feuds going on during the minority of Duke William was one that erupted between William Talvas and William fitz Giroie. William fitz Giroie was a vassal of William Talvas and his father Giroie had assisted Talvas' father and uncle in the struggles against Herbert I Wake-dog, Count of Maine. William fitz Giroie himself had greatly assisted William Talvas in obtaining his own lands, apparently by force. But William fitz Giroie was also a vassal of Geoffrey de Mayenne, an adherent, in turn, of the Count of Maine. About 1044 William Talvas attacked the castle of Montaigu which was being defended by William fitz Giroie. Unable to defeat the castle William Talvas captured Geoffrey de Mayenne and held him prisoner until William Fitz Giroie destroyed the castle of Montaigu. William fitz Giroie immediately razed his own castle to free his lord and in return Geoffrey de Mayenne built fitz Giroie a new castle at St. Cenery on the river Sarthe. This apparently caused great resentment in William Talvas.

      On the occasion of his second wedding, William Talvas invited William fitz Giroie to attend. Suspecting nothing fitz Giroie while a guest at the festivities was suddenly seized by Talvas' men and imprisoned, then according to Orderic horribly mutilated and blinded before being released. Somehow William Giroie survived his torture and mutilation and retired to Bec Abbey to live out the remainder of his life as a monk. To avenge this atrocity the sons and kinsmen of William fitz Giroie sacked and destroyed the lands of William Talvas who would not face them in the field. Finally, Talvas' son Arnulf rebelled and exiled his father, now reviled by everyone. He wandered until he was taken in by the de Montgomery family whose son Roger agreed to marry his daughter Mabel in return for the lands William lost. It seems certain that after the death of Arnulf the following year, that William Talvas recovered his lands. William confirmed a gift to St. Aubin of Angers made by his brother Yves circa 1060-2 and after that nothing more is heard of him.

      Family

      By Hildeburg, his first wife, William had two children:

      Arnulf de Bellême, who deprived his father of his estates and wealth and was dead by 1049.
      Mabel de Bellême, who married Roger de Montgomerie, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and was murdered 2 Dec 1079

      His second wife, a daughter of Ralf de Beaumont, may have been the mother of his son:

      Oliver who after long service in the wars, became a monk at Bec.

      William Talvas is said to have cursed the infant William, later to become William the Conqueror, in his cradle predicitng the child would be the downfall of the house of Bellême.
    Person ID I2922  Bosdet Genealogy
    Last Modified 16 May 2013 

    Father William de Bellême,   b. Abt 962,   d. 1028  (Age ~ 66 years) 
    Relationship Natural 
    Mother Mathilde of Condé-sur-Noireau 
    Relationship Natural 
    Family ID F1958  Group Sheet

    Family Hildeburg 
    Children 
     1. Mabel de Bellême,   d. 02 Dec 1079
    Family ID F1622  Group Sheet

  • Sources 
    1. [S174] Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_I_Talvas.

    2. [S174] Wikipedia.